He has a clear advantage, but I would not be surprised if Herc somehow finds a way to beat him before he can be fully killed. Doesn't fit Archer's MO of weapon throwing (he threw about twenty Kuzuki's way in UBW and Medea took one for the team). In legends, Heracles went mad on countless occasions, but originally he was an excellent warrior who mastered all kinds of weapons. Even the things that can destroy it require multiple hits and you could always retreat before the 2nd blow is landed. Press J to jump to the feed. Her experiences have given her a fear of death and she hates the Servant system which would cause her to repeatedly experience it.In life, Scheherazade was a brave woman who voluntarily took part in her father'… Day 0 [edit | edit source]. You expect the Eisenbergs to prepare a defense against such an unknown servant when even the servant summoner's did not know of the awesomeness of Gilgamesh let alone a catalyst existed that could summon this monster. I don't think he would have an issue with that. Edit: never mind. If you count Alcides (the Archer form of Heracles Alter in Fate/strange fake ), Heracles has even more potential classes and powers, further cementing his already-tremendous might. The victory condition are death or KO. They excel in breaking down strong, high-HP targets, especially boss Servants in Grand Battles. In sum you have to understand the Eisenberg strategy was one of aggressive defense. Pretty sure its stated somewhere that Heracles is strongest in the Archer class. If the 3 days had not recovered Berserker than her homunculus allies would play a diversion and she would escape possibly using another command seal if necessary. Kiritsugu's betrayal probably caused them to want a pawn that wouldn't turn on them. Honestly, dunno how Narita's gonna write himself out of this one. Emiya has kidnapped Miyu and believes that by using her power to it's fullest thus killing her he can break his contract with the Counter Force and requires Chloe's archer card to finish the ritual. Same thing with the War God's Sash. and shown to always mispronounces Charon's name which annoys him, and causes more problems than he can solve. Combining these factors, Archer Heracles is considered to be among the strongest Heroic Spirits. Lu Bu was an unsurpassed equestrian, spearman, and archer. In other words Tokiomi had a great plan but he did not even know how much of a monster Gilgamesh was and he was "pleasantly surprised" by learning how Gilgamesh was beyond his wildest dreams with power. Summoning him as another class does have some pros and cons but you exchange some pros for some different cons. I'm actually surprised he didn't get a Neiman Lion Phantasm (or passive). Not necessarily strongest, but out of all the classes Archer suits Hercules best, because his legend is all about him overcoming challenges by being smart and resourceful. So there's a thread about what if Sasaki was summoned into Saber class instead of Assassin class. I remember Heracles using either a club or a bow, never a Sword. Vs Lancer: Second verse, same as the first. Yes it did gimp them in a way but they had no way of knowing Gilgamesh was still around or that Saber would be the one they summoned last war. He would even got poison arrows to boost it too. Everyone is kinda OP. They had an immortal and unkillable servant if you took the right steps of preparation. He'd be second only to the Grand Archer, assuming he isn't it. Arjuna Hits: 2|3|3|5 Clairvoyance C+ Increases own critical star generation rate for 3 turns. Heracles is a simple but effective Servant, and his Bond Craft Essence choices are also quite easy to pick. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. He just only uses it on his weapons, and not his body like True Rider does. Pretty sure its stated somewhere that Heracles is strongest in the Archer class. I assumed it was a skill. Before renouncing his title, he is Grand Archer(グランドアーチャー, Gurando Āchā?). archer heracles (narita said he wanted nasu to handle the raw archer-ness of heracles)" So the 5th Lostbelt is... • r/grandorder reddit (edited by EX Luck Icarus) Pure Archer Herc would be alot nicer first of all. For 5 , see Arjuna (Alter). so not like there's much of a difference lol. And if used correctly not even the fate version of berserker would have been defeated by Saber and Shirou. The eisenberg's strategy was turtling aka aggressive defense. As for what would happened, that's already been answered by everyone else-while he wouldn't be absolutely invincible, in his optimal class of Archer the only servants that could realistically take him on are Gilgamesh and Karna. Superior to Gilgamesh in every way if not for maybe gate of babylon hax. However, in the Nasuverse, Archer Heracles doesn't have any Divinity and is not a Demigod, because Archer Heracles represents Heracles before his ascension to Godhood (although I'm 99% sure that was solely so that he couldn't be brought down by Enkidu). Berserkers have a base star absorption of 10. Archer(アーチャー, Āchā?) He works as a hero for glory and praise, not for helping others. In the fate version some quick thinking could have saved berserker but it is quite shocking a noble phantasm exists that can destroy 7 of the lives of Berserker in 1 shot. This article is for Arjuna. He would have access to the inherent Magic Resistance, have his reasoning back, and be able to use the Bow of Hydra (check out Prisma Illya for what I assume is the Bow being used) and may still have God Hand. (While I agree with what you said you need to understand the Eisenberg's strategy completely prior to disagreeing with it.). The fighters start off 200 metres apart. Come join the hundreds of thousands of Masters on your grand journey. Crazed warriors that have lost almost all traces of their sanity in exchange for great power.— Berserkers have a base damage multiplier of 1.1x. The 2nd noble phantasm to levitate also works while he is in spirit/ethereal form and also works to levitate his master. I'm pretty sure there is a doujin of that. Furthermore, most Buster-type Servants are Berserkers, which have low defenses, s… He might not be as strong (physically) as when he was in the Berserker class but this technique alone should make up for that and even more. Essentially, still broken but possibly even more so. Overall, Heracles will want to either improve his offensive capacity through Craft Essences that grant Buster Performance Up and/or Starting NP Gauge, or bolster his survivability with Guts Status and/or Evade/Invulnerability. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Because when he was summoned to the Berserker class, he was limited to only a single Noble Phantasm, God Hands, instead of many more. Remember Rin's dad Toshaska did not know about Ea when he summoned Gilgamesh prior to the summoning (he learned later from Gilgamesh himself), nor did Rin know about the thousands of noble phantasms of the Gate of Babylon after learning who Gilgamesh was. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, More posts from the fatestaynight community. Remember anything that is an A rank noble phantasm or attack could remove lives is not going to go through all 12 instantly. Berserker Day is here! The Einzberns made him a Berserker because they wanted someone strong but without the capacity for independent thinking (which the Archer class is notorious for). Let me know which servant you want to see spotlighted next in the comments! VS Saber: Unless she is sniped due to having to protect her master while he is acting like a brainless idiot, Archer is pretty much screwed. Heracles Known classes: Berserker, Archer, Saber, Lancer, Rider, Assassin. He holds strong morals, even going against the orders of his Master to preserve his heroism. they were sick of being crossed and didnt want him to be capable of betraying them. Berserkers have a base star generation rate of 5%. For everything related to Fate/stay night or its spin-offs. He is one of the Servants of Ritsuka Fujimaru of the Grand Orders conflicts of Fate/Grand Order. Heracles fits the parameters for every base class except Caster, yet Berserker is canonically his weakest possible incarnation, as he loses his vast martial mastery and famous cunning in exchange for more of something he already has plenty of (physical strength). He might even have the War God's Sash, and without Alcides' hatred of the gods, he'd be willing to boost his stats to match his Berserker form without the drawbacks of Mad Enhancement. He does have it. The berserker version of Hercules was merely planning to outlast and endure anything another servant can throw at them. is a Archer-class Servant summoned by Ritsuka Fujimaru in the Grand Orders of Fate/Grand Order. Remember most of Okeanos is just "Herc is after you, run!" also, I'm pretty sure the twelve lives gimmick is something only Zerk Herc has (iirc, he trades access to his other noble phantasms, for the twelve lives and increased stats), I'm pretty sure the Nemean Lion's pelt is part of King's Order, so normal Archer Herc wouldn't have access to it. In "real" mythology, Heracles was the son of Zeus and a Demi-God. He is one of the Servants of Ritsuka Fujimaru of the Grand Order conflicts of Fate/Grand Order. Archery uniforms look far different today than in Victorian England, but competitive archery remains popular among women. Heracles(ヘラクレス, Herakuresu?, Hercules), Class Name Berserker(バーサーカー, Bāsākā? Between the four, in a round robin i'd go with the following results: Heracles vs Gilgamesh: Gilgamesh wins 7 out of 10 times. Most people said that he would be a hack. is the Archer-class Servant of Rin Tohsaka in the Fifth Holy Grail War of Fate/stay night. Press J to jump to the feed. Have fun and enjoy your stay. Do not discount how powerful god hands is. He would have access to the inherent Magic Resistance, have his reasoning back, and be able to use the Bow of Hydra (check out Prisma Illya for what I assume is the Bow being used) and may still have God Hand. Even as berserker, there were only two servants that can possibly beat hercules: gilgamesh and saber. There 's one Heroic Spirit that if he was summoned into is well known, Archer up! 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